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01/09/08 22:00
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#149202 - RS485
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Jeroen,

In a household situation, having isolated 485 comms is overkill. I done a bit of lighting control over the years and have installed systems with many nodes spread around a building using RS485 and not required isolation. Even much of my instrumentation systems that have 1km of cable and a number of nodes operate quite happily without isolation.

If you want to use transformers, you need to choose an encoding scheme that won't introduce a DC offset, otherwise the transformer will saturate rendering any communicaion void. So you would have to use manchester encoding or other means to achieve this. This rules out using the uart then! It might just be cheaper to go ethernet vs isolated 485 - is would be getting close in cost methinks with ethernet getting cheaper in the longer term - the transformer/RJ45 being a mass market item. Many processors have the mac/phy built in (PIC,Luminary, and there's a 8051 based chip that escapes me at the moment).

Then you've also got the option of power over ethernet.


List of 27 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
galvanic isolated communication            01/01/70 00:00      
   What is domotica?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Domotica            01/01/70 00:00      
         GND loop wont be a problem            01/01/70 00:00      
            Misunderstanding?            01/01/70 00:00      
               RS485 Isolators            01/01/70 00:00      
      Transformers vs. optocouples ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         there are galvanically isolated 485 transcievers            01/01/70 00:00      
   PROFIBUS?            01/01/70 00:00      
      I would not            01/01/70 00:00      
         Have you seen...            01/01/70 00:00      
            no, I have not and I definitely would not            01/01/70 00:00      
         RS485            01/01/70 00:00      
   Fibre optics?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes, there is, but rather expensive!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Wireless?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Power-line communication?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Standard Radio Uses Optoisolators            01/01/70 00:00      
      Shield            01/01/70 00:00      
         noibody said not to ground cases etc            01/01/70 00:00      
   Isolated RS485            01/01/70 00:00      
   Jeroen, where are you??            01/01/70 00:00      
      please do not answer Jeroen, where are you??            01/01/70 00:00      
         ???            01/01/70 00:00      
            Kai            01/01/70 00:00      
               But he did already!            01/01/70 00:00      
   galvanic insulaton            01/01/70 00:00      

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