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01/17/13 23:02
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#189242 - ATF16V8CZ has Pin-keeper
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Koen De Ganck said:
I removed the GAL and the µC is running without pull-up. (I see activity on the databus )
It is pin 11 (OE) of an ATF16V8C2, but I have board with different variants.


I think you mean ATF16V8CZ, (there is no C2), and yes, that part has Pin-keepers. You hit the jackpot ;)

The Pin-keep is a snap-action light driver, that holds a pin H or L, but it does mean it can sink about 40uA, and that just trumps your 27uA PSEN.
These light-current values are going to vary quite a lot in production.

If you need the PLD, and want to avoid PCB changes, you could switch to the
ATF16V8BQL, as that does not use Pin-keep; it has Pullups only.


List of 24 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Reset issue with new Atmel AT89LP51ED2            01/01/70 00:00      
   Do never use a µC from which only a preliminary...            01/01/70 00:00      
      configuration settings            01/01/70 00:00      
         what about negative reset?            01/01/70 00:00      
            good idea but            01/01/70 00:00      
   Some things to check...            01/01/70 00:00      
      also try no LM810 at all            01/01/70 00:00      
         reset is inverted            01/01/70 00:00      
      no strange signals            01/01/70 00:00      
         Extra modes ?            01/01/70 00:00      
            pull-up on PSEN solves the problem            01/01/70 00:00      
               small capacitor ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  small capacitor            01/01/70 00:00      
   side-stepping the problem?            01/01/70 00:00      
      SST could be an option            01/01/70 00:00      
   final status AT89LP51ED2 reset            01/01/70 00:00      
      Clarifies             01/01/70 00:00      
         loads on PSEN            01/01/70 00:00      
            An isolated PSEN works fine ?            01/01/70 00:00      
               GAL causes problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                  ATF16V8CZ has Pin-keeper            01/01/70 00:00      
                     'Z' indeed            01/01/70 00:00      
                        ATF16V8BQL has Icc of ~1.5mA            01/01/70 00:00      
                           'BQL' version could be an option            01/01/70 00:00      

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