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07/23/05 18:41
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#97882 - My $0.02 USD
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Craig Steiner said:
But if there are any ideas out there of how we can improve things by all means let me know. Anything that can make the forum more enjoyable and reduce the amount of time I spend dealing with 8052.com "politics" is something that I'm definitely in favor of!


When I have thought about the notion of Forum moderation and karma/scoring from time to time, I always end up comparing it to Usenet Newsgroups -- an 'older' (Internet-wise) means of discussion 'forum'. Some observations:
  • Very few moderated newsgroups exist, but because Usenet is not site-based, moderation has to be done in a manner that, by its very nature, prevents flame wars, off-topic posts, etc.

  • The vast majority of newsgroups are unmoderated, so anything goes.

  • Usenet provides no flame protection (with the exception of the aforementioned moderated newsgroups).

  • Usenet has kooks, loons, trolls, etc., just like we have seen on this forum.

  • Usenet does not insulate readers from 'homework' or 'gimme code' types.

  • Usenet provides no means to attribute a score or karma to a post or a poster. Contributors develop a reputation as a natural consequence of what they post.

If this forum were to change the scoring/karma system, my input would be to attribute scores to threads/posts, not members.

Regarding off-topic threads/posts, I don't have a big problem with them as long as I can quickly identify them so that I can choose to not read them. To that end, how about?
  • Any member scoring a thread's root post with OT, flags the thread as OT until a moderator overrides that designation.

  • Any member scoring a subsequent post in the thread OT, flags that post as OT until a moderator overrides that designation.

I am not suggesting more moderation for that, just that a moderator can permanently override a member's OT score when necessary.

Craig Steiner said:
... I do not enjoy having to administer or moderate this forum.

I'd say to moderate only as much as you want. If 'homework' slips in, so be it. Let flame wars flame on if you want -- they typically only hurt the flamers' reputations.


List of 45 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Unfair Moderation.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Flashback: Forum moderation & karma            01/01/70 00:00      
      Tougher line            01/01/70 00:00      
      My $0.02 USD            01/01/70 00:00      
      Re: Flashback forum moderation and karma            01/01/70 00:00      
      Comments to Craig            01/01/70 00:00      
         I think you are right - David            01/01/70 00:00      
      Status Quo            01/01/70 00:00      
         In favour of the existing moderation            01/01/70 00:00      
      Painful truth...            01/01/70 00:00      
         The thread            01/01/70 00:00      
            Kai,Steve            01/01/70 00:00      
            Thread closing was unsuited!            01/01/70 00:00      
               ?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Changing thread-closure policy            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I don't understand...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Nope            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Losing posts            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Other issues            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Hmmm            01/01/70 00:00      
         Very Painful Indeed.            01/01/70 00:00      
            credit where its due            01/01/70 00:00      
               Mike's            01/01/70 00:00      
            Letting Michael go            01/01/70 00:00      
         Reason for Michael's leaving            01/01/70 00:00      
   don't give in            01/01/70 00:00      
      not Prahlad            01/01/70 00:00      
   Old Boys Club debunked            01/01/70 00:00      
   Olb Boys Club ailive and well.            01/01/70 00:00      
      beware of the plank            01/01/70 00:00      
         karma            01/01/70 00:00      
      If you say so            01/01/70 00:00      
         Pot calling Kettle...?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Who cares ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      I do            01/01/70 00:00      
         You're missing the point.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Karma is a good actuator !            01/01/70 00:00      
   Moderation            01/01/70 00:00      
   Two things.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Re: Two Things.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Karma for messages, not people            01/01/70 00:00      
            made sense to me            01/01/70 00:00      
               We'll see            01/01/70 00:00      
      That's the reason for karma            01/01/70 00:00      

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